Samsung SCX-4500W advertises AES+TKIP and then silently fails at it
Lexmark stubbornly refuses to make any effort toward providing, or at least letting other people provide, printer drivers for their devices – don’t buy from them if you need support for anything other than their operating system of choice.
After repeatedly acquiring throwaway inkjet printers from Lexmark and repeatedly wondering why my mother’s Ubuntu laptop can’t use them, my father finally accepted my suggestion of studying compatibility beforehand instead of buying on impulse – years of pedagogy finally paid off !
My parents required a compact wireless device supporting printing and scanning from their operating systems – preferably fast and silent, if possible robust and not too unsightly. No need for color, black and white was fine – though I would have pushed them toward color if multifunction laser printing devices capable of putting out colors were not so bulky. Those requirements led us toward the Samsung SCX-4500W.
I connected the Samsung SCX-4500W on one of the Ethernet ports of my parent’s router and went through the HTTP administration interface. The printing controls are extremely basic – but the networking configuration surprised me with a wealth of supported protocols : raw TCP/IP printing, LPR/LPD, IPP, SLP, UPnP, SNMP including SNMP v3, Telnet, email alert on any event you want – including levels of consumables… Anything I can think about printing on top of my mind is there. The funniest thing is that neither the product presentation, nor the specification sheet or the various reviews advertise that this device boasts such a rich set of networking features… Demure advertising – now that’s a novel concept !
I set-up wireless the printer’s 802.11 networking features, unplugged the Ethernet cable, rebooted the device… And nothing happened. No wireless networking, no error and, when I reconnected the Ethernet cable and got back to the administration interface, the radio networking menu was not even available anymore. After careful verification I could reliably reproduce that behaviour. At that stage, my parents were already lamenting the sorry state of the ever-unreliable modern technology – and most users would have been equally lost.
I pressed on and found that I was not alone in my predicament. User experiences soon led me to the solution : I had configured my parent’s radio network to use WPA with TKIP+AES encryption (the best option available on their access point) but the Samsung SCX-4500W was unable to support that properly. The administration interface’s radio networking menu proposed TKIP+AES but silently failed to establish a connection and seemed to screw the whole radio networking stack. Only setting my parent’s Freebox and all other devices on the network, to use TKIP only instead of TKIP+AES yielded a working setup with a reachable printer, at the cost of using trivially circumventable security to protect the network’s traffic from intrusion.
Now that is seriously bad engineering : not supporting a desirable protocol is entirely forgivable – but advertising it in a menu, then failing to connect without generating the slightest hint of an error message, and as a bonus wedging the user into an irrecoverable configuration is a grievous sin. I managed to overcome the obstacle, but this is a device aimed at the mass market and I can perfectly understand its target audience’s desire to throw it out of the window.
On that problem was solved, configuring the clients over the network was a breeze and pages of nice print were soon flying out quickly and silently. In summary, the Samsung SCX-4500W is a stylish printing and scanning device that lives up to its promises – apart from that nasty bug that makes me doubt Samsung’s quality control over its networking features.
Scanning with the Samsung SCX-4500W is another story entirely – it should work with the xerox_mfp SANE backend, but only through USB. For now I have found no hope of having it scan for a Linux host across the network.
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Hi,
I had the same problems (I also have a Freebox configured with TKIP+AES) and I managed to configure it on an AES only network which is hopefully more secure than TKIP only. Have you tried notifying Samsung support about it ? If we bug them enough about it maybe they can fix this with a firmware upgrade.
I have not tried notifying them… But you are right : it is worth trying. I’ll do that this week-end !
After a few weeks of attempts at stability, I conclude that wireless with the Samsung SCX-4500W is way too unstable. On top of that is does not recover well from connection loss – its stable state is the unconnected one… I give up – this printer is now a very nice and stable wired Ethernet printer – somewhat costly in that role, but it works to the user’s satisfaction, attached to the apartment’s WiFi-Ethernet router at the cost of a slight furniture rearrangement.
i upgraded my router today to the cisco e3000. and my scx4500w wireless feature stopped working immediately after. after hours of searching for help and information, I came across your page which basically answered a question that samsung support could not.
I also wish they would update their network firmware, so it can support WPA2 AES+TKIP.
I’m having similar issues after changing routers, was using TKIP & AES but the Samsung 4500W simply would not play ball. Fiddling around with changing the protocol and will see where this gets me.
Quite ironic really as have used the printer with three other routers with no problems. No I’m using a Linksys 54GL running DD-WRT firmware and it’s not happy.
Ah, there we go – success with using AES only. What a faff and waste of time. I’m sure that a firmware upgrade could resolve the issue.
Thanks for taking the time to blog this problem…very helpful.
Thanks for this post! I’ve just spent an hour uncovering the same problem with my SCX-4500W, and have emailed Samsung support… I hope they come up with a fix on the printer’s side, so I do not have to reconfigure my whole network as a workaround for them denying the bug at all.
Thank you publishing this info! There is nothing else out there on this problem with this printer.
I love the printer – the hardware is very well designed and day-to-day use of it is great.
However, after a recent modem / router upgrade i spent at least 4 hrs trying to get it to connect wirelessly.
I even spent an hour on the phone with samsung customer service – which was less than helpful to say the least.
only with your help in this lone posting was i able to put the pieces together and get it working
the wireless capabilities are quite finicky – and if anything goes wrong the entire stack is lost. (the wireless option in the web service interface is lost)
so:
WPA or WPA2 only
AES only
802.11 g or b only (stay away from n)
– power the machine down properly before cutting power, i lost the config several times because of that.
– reset both the machine settings and the network settings should the wireless stack become corrupted. follow that with a complete hard reboot.
– make sure no open (no security) wireless networks are available – it will try to auto-connect and may re-corrupt its wireless
samsung doesnt seem interested in supporting this printer – no firmware updates – no tech support. its a great machine… too bad.