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	<title>Comments on: Let us kill Twitter with Jabber &#8211; we have the tools to do it !</title>
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		<title>By: Tomas-k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas-k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite megaupload search engine is megauploadfiles.com it’s the most powerful an easy to use. megauploadfiles.com has incredible speed of   searching rapidshare links in the internet.<br />
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is is!  Turn a Wordpress install into a private, self-hosted twitter with a simple customized theme called Prologue.
http://wordpress.com/blog/2008/01/28/introducing-prologue/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is is!  Turn a WordPress install into a private, self-hosted twitter with a simple customized theme called Prologue.<br />
<a href="http://wordpress.com/blog/2008/01/28/introducing-prologue/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.com/blog/2008/01/28/introducing-prologue/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Vidal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Vidal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://iss.im&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ISS&lt;/a&gt; (Instant Syndicating Standards). ISS is a set of open standards that enable people to discover and syndicate information within their social network. It blends the Web and XMPP in an elegant way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at <a href="http://iss.im" rel="nofollow">ISS</a> (Instant Syndicating Standards). ISS is a set of open standards that enable people to discover and syndicate information within their social network. It blends the Web and XMPP in an elegant way.</p>
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		<title>By: alCim &#187; links for 2008-01-24</title>
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		<dc:creator>alCim &#187; links for 2008-01-24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want a Twitter that lives behind a firewall or on the web but behind a password and in PHP but without the need for IM client connectivity or mobile.  I think something like a modified phpbb or bbpress would do it.  Strip out all of the unnecessary parts and re-arrange the views and you have it.  This could replace ephemerally-needed e-mails.  This is the problem with bb systems today.  They have a lower adoption rate becuase they are not as accessible as e-mail.  Increase the accessibility (get rid of multi topics, messages buried under topics, the perceived need for threading) of bb systems with something Twitter-like, eliminate inbox overflow, and you have a new productivity tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a Twitter that lives behind a firewall or on the web but behind a password and in PHP but without the need for IM client connectivity or mobile.  I think something like a modified phpbb or bbpress would do it.  Strip out all of the unnecessary parts and re-arrange the views and you have it.  This could replace ephemerally-needed e-mails.  This is the problem with bb systems today.  They have a lower adoption rate becuase they are not as accessible as e-mail.  Increase the accessibility (get rid of multi topics, messages buried under topics, the perceived need for threading) of bb systems with something Twitter-like, eliminate inbox overflow, and you have a new productivity tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting thoughts and conversation!  nice blend of humor and half sacrasim! :)

btw, enemies and friends are much like junk and treasures these days. One man&#039;s junk is another man&#039;s treasure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting thoughts and conversation!  nice blend of humor and half sacrasim! :)</p>
<p>btw, enemies and friends are much like junk and treasures these days. One man&#8217;s junk is another man&#8217;s treasure!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Marc Liotier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Marc Liotier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t get me wrong, the aggressivity is half sarcastic - I don&#039;t mean harm to anyone. But I am quite tired of seing the community fragmented by closed systems so I am indeed being a bit touchy on that subject.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for pointing out Blaine Cook&#039;s comment - I had missed that important one. It is very interesting too learn that his position is both lucid and open. In fact his comment defuses my whole conclusion : not only does he explain that the technical foundation of Twitter is quite compatible with an open federation, but the staff is actually already in touch with third parties to work on that possibility. I am very pleased to learn that and I look forward for more news from Blaine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And his Jabber::Simple xmpp4r-simple looks very nice !&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the aggressivity is half sarcastic &#8211; I don&#8217;t mean harm to anyone. But I am quite tired of seing the community fragmented by closed systems so I am indeed being a bit touchy on that subject.</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out Blaine Cook&#8217;s comment &#8211; I had missed that important one. It is very interesting too learn that his position is both lucid and open. In fact his comment defuses my whole conclusion : not only does he explain that the technical foundation of Twitter is quite compatible with an open federation, but the staff is actually already in touch with third parties to work on that possibility. I am very pleased to learn that and I look forward for more news from Blaine.</p>
<p>And his Jabber::Simple xmpp4r-simple looks very nice !</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Nemeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Nemeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See....

First of all, that Twitter pro action was a &quot;Do you like us? support us!&quot; thing I believe. They were pretty sure you could do this without them of course!

Second: Twitter is jabber; you&#039;re right. And they&#039;re helping us to create the PEP (Personal Eventing via PubSub) protocol of Jabber, which you just mentioned. And Jaiku is working on this solution too! They realized a business need, made a company of it, and then they&#039;re trying to do this standardized, distributed....

So I don&#039;t think it&#039;s time for aggressivity :) Both Twitter and Jaiku was present on the latest XMPP DevCon, and the Jabber community is trying to do the best for a &quot;distributed twitter&quot;, or anything else you want to call it. The only thing that we need to refine PEP a bit, and it takes time to servers to implement it...

(Both OpenFire and ejabberd folks are busy to do this in time).

If you don&#039;t believe that twitter is *besides* jabber and not against it, read the comment of Blaine Cook (senior developer @ twitter) on B. Mann&#039;s page:

http://bmannconsulting.com/blog/bmann/twitter-is-jabber-part-ii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See&#8230;.</p>
<p>First of all, that Twitter pro action was a &#8220;Do you like us? support us!&#8221; thing I believe. They were pretty sure you could do this without them of course!</p>
<p>Second: Twitter is jabber; you&#8217;re right. And they&#8217;re helping us to create the PEP (Personal Eventing via PubSub) protocol of Jabber, which you just mentioned. And Jaiku is working on this solution too! They realized a business need, made a company of it, and then they&#8217;re trying to do this standardized, distributed&#8230;.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s time for aggressivity :) Both Twitter and Jaiku was present on the latest XMPP DevCon, and the Jabber community is trying to do the best for a &#8220;distributed twitter&#8221;, or anything else you want to call it. The only thing that we need to refine PEP a bit, and it takes time to servers to implement it&#8230;</p>
<p>(Both OpenFire and ejabberd folks are busy to do this in time).</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe that twitter is *besides* jabber and not against it, read the comment of Blaine Cook (senior developer @ twitter) on B. Mann&#8217;s page:</p>
<p><a href="http://bmannconsulting.com/blog/bmann/twitter-is-jabber-part-ii" rel="nofollow">http://bmannconsulting.com/blog/bmann/twitter-is-jabber-part-ii</a></p>
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